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Tim Reese
Administrator
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 Posted - August 09 2007 : 06:37:52
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We have been asked by a House member not to say anything about the rumor that Speaker Lance Cargill got caught by the cleaning staff having sex with TW. Nor will we discuss the trip to Boston at the first part of this week.
These along with the several other rumors have plagued the young speaker. I know that he knows what I know as well.
We will however actively solicit photos for future posting. Kind of reminds you of the Gary Hart thing doesn't it.
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DemoVet
Leader
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1322 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 11:09:00
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| What a great way to show republican family values, by getting a blow job in the speaker's office. Keep it up, Mr. Speaker. |
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mecarr
Grassroots
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Posted - August 09 2007 : 11:39:41
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| Who is TW? |
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MKUltra
Leader
USA
2001 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 11:47:19
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I was hoping it was Trebor Worthen, but it seems not to have been. On an unrelated topic, the executive assistant on the Speaker's staff (no pun intended) has the initals TW.
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Originally posted by mecarr
Who is TW?
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mccurtaincountyyellowdog
Outspoken Leader
USA
15921 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 11:47:52
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| Tim, I admire your restraint. |
Jane Luttrell
“Society exists only as a mental concept; in the real world there are only individuals.” ~ Oscar Wilde
"You are who you pander to" ~~ Juliet Lapidos, Slate Magazine, discussing Bush and Palin
"And remember the corporation is, by nature, sociopathic because no human in it is ever responsible."~~somebody named MacKenna commenting on Matt Taibbi's portion of The Smirking Chimp
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Tim Reese
Administrator
USA
18164 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 12:48:49
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Biting tongue
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research gal
Organizer
542 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 13:02:21
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| I'll go with Trebor Worthen... |
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mccurtaincountyyellowdog
Outspoken Leader
USA
15921 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 13:03:06
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That HAS been suggested...with glee!!!!! ROFL
Don't think it is, though. |
Jane Luttrell
“Society exists only as a mental concept; in the real world there are only individuals.” ~ Oscar Wilde
"You are who you pander to" ~~ Juliet Lapidos, Slate Magazine, discussing Bush and Palin
"And remember the corporation is, by nature, sociopathic because no human in it is ever responsible."~~somebody named MacKenna commenting on Matt Taibbi's portion of The Smirking Chimp
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StillwaterTownie
Leader
USA
2718 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 18:35:13
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| And throughout time hasn't there been a lot of hanky panky by high profile characters in elevators in the State Capitol after they stop it between floors? Or actually is it hard to have sex in the State Capitol elevators because an alarm would sound if the elevator is stopped between floors? |
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rokn
Activist
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Posted - August 09 2007 : 20:10:36
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| (Do as I say not as I do) should be the motto for the neo cons....... It seems they have different rules of behavior then the ones they expect all the rest to live by. |
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StillwaterTownie
Leader
USA
2718 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 20:39:18
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| Well, if that's what the voters are willing to tolerate who put them in office, then that's just what we'll get. With conservative voters, it's probably far more vital for their politicians while in office to vote on the issues the far right way, and not necessarily to live it as well. |
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oklahoma_dude_28
Grassroots
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Posted - August 09 2007 : 20:47:03
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| What happened in Boston that we're not supposed to talk about? |
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Teucer
Leader
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StillwaterTownie
Leader
USA
2718 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 21:22:19
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| I guess Tammie thinks Lance Cargill is HOT. I bet his wife is HOT, too. |
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Teucer
Leader
1021 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 22:07:55
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from page 14 or 52 [PDF] SUMMARY OF LOBBYING EXPENDITURES
http://www.ok.gov/~ethics/Reportsa.06.pdf
It appears the David Stephen Edwards gave 2 concert tickets to Rep. Lance Cargill in January 2006 and 1 concert ticket to Ms. Tammie Wright on January 10, 2006. (the "not given" was the name of Edward's business)
Did anyone see them at the Bon Jovi Concert at the Ford Center in OKC on January 14, 2006? Did David Edwards also attend? |
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DemoVet
Leader
USA
1322 Posts |
Posted - August 09 2007 : 23:07:44
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| Boy this thread sure has a lot of hits. :) |
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Earl Cofer
Outspoken Leader
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10286 Posts |
Posted - August 10 2007 : 05:59:58
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If my feet would fit a railroad track, I guess I'd been a train. -Billy Joe Shaver |
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Wanda Jo
Leader
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Posted - August 10 2007 : 08:46:03
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We have been asked by a House member not to say anything about the rumor that Speaker Lance Cargill got caught by the cleaning staff having sex with TW. Tim
Whoops! So much for the $500,000 in funding the Legislature gave the "community or faith-based organizations" this year for abstinance only programs (SB-424, Section 4). |
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MKUltra
Leader
USA
2001 Posts |
Posted - August 10 2007 : 10:19:38
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Originally posted by Earl Cofer
DemoVet, as one of my kin said at the large gathering at a funeral for one of my uncles," Give the people what they want and they will come."
Apparently that applies to Cargill as well. |
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DemoVet
Leader
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1322 Posts |
Posted - August 10 2007 : 12:13:53
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I have long asserted that sexual misbehavior has nothing to do with a politician's ability to do his job. Bill Clinton, while being a terrible husband, was a good President regardless of his behavior.
Now, Cargill is now a terrible husband as well as being a terrible legislator. Blowjobs have nothing to do with job performance. ;)
But I suppose that doesn't stop me from babbling about it to as many voters as possible, right?
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Jeri
Leader
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Posted - August 10 2007 : 12:21:01
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Caught by the cleaning crew? How embarrassing for poor Lancie!
Does this mean we can get our $500,000 back from that crowd of hypocrites at the "Office of Faith-Based Hypocrisy"?
Tim, tell us the rest of the rumors, about the "can't keep it in his pants" Mr. Speaker. 
Who was "Mr. Holier than thou, Lance" screwing in Boston? |
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Mitch™
Leader
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1855 Posts |
Posted - August 10 2007 : 13:40:36
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WELL- I SPOSE I SHOOLD WHEY IN ON THIS HERE TOPIC.
MITCH
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Arbee
Organizer
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755 Posts |
Posted - August 10 2007 : 14:33:53
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We'll hafta agree to disagree on whether Bill Clinton did a good job as a president . . .
I'll argue that he did irrepairable damage to the working middle class when he signed NAFTA, GATT and WTO agreements . . .
Despite all the good he may have done, these agreements wiped all that out . . . |
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Teucer
Leader
1021 Posts |
Posted - August 10 2007 : 19:07:57
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Originally posted by Arbee
We'll hafta agree to disagree on whether Bill Clinton did a good job as a president . . .
I'll argue that he did irrepairable damage to the working middle class when he signed NAFTA, GATT and WTO agreements . . .
Despite all the good he may have done, these agreements wiped all that out . . .
Don't forget that while President Clinton, along with the Republican Revolution, made agreements that took away jobs, they also eliminated welfare, so the jobless will go hungry or turn to crime for survival. That's ok, they also enacted mandatory minimum sentences! These actions should qualify him as "cheap labor conservative" and not a fiscal conservative.
However, dispite his shortcomings, Bill Clinton seems like a saint compared with George W. Bush. |
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edwardwhiteokc
Leader
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2329 Posts |
Posted - August 10 2007 : 20:49:43
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| "Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees have taken their seat on the chair of Moses. Therefore, do and observe all things whatsoever they tell you, but do not follow their example. For they preach but they do not practice. They tie up heavy burdens 3 (hard to carry) and lay them on people's shoulders, but they will not lift a finger to move them." Matthew 23:1-2. |
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Mitch™
Leader
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1855 Posts |
Posted - August 10 2007 : 21:59:52
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PREECH IT EDDIE!! THERES A FEW THANGS IN THE BIBLE= AINT NOBODY CAN ARGIE WITH.
MITCH
PS= I RETOUCHED LANCE'S PICTURE= I'M SHORE HE RILLY APPRECIATES IT. MITE HAFTA CLICK <REFRESH/RELOAD> TO SEE THE DIFFERNCE.
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doublea
Organizer
984 Posts |
Posted - August 11 2007 : 12:43:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Teucer
quote:
Originally posted by Arbee
We'll hafta agree to disagree on whether Bill Clinton did a good job as a president . . .
I'll argue that he did irrepairable damage to the working middle class when he signed NAFTA, GATT and WTO agreements . . .
Despite all the good he may have done, these agreements wiped all that out . . .
Don't forget that while President Clinton, along with the Republican Revolution, made agreements that took away jobs, they also eliminated welfare, so the jobless will go hungry or turn to crime for survival. That's ok, they also enacted mandatory minimum sentences! These actions should qualify him as "cheap labor conservative" and not a fiscal conservative.
However, dispite his shortcomings, Bill Clinton seems like a saint compared with George W. Bush.
I think the deification of Clinton presidency and the Regan presidency ignore the devastating effects both of these administrations had on working class families, yet they are revered as the greatest Presidents in my lifetime. Shameful. If Hillary(former Wal-Mart board member) is our nominee, I expect more of the same.  |
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gingerale
Organizer
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546 Posts |
Posted - August 11 2007 : 14:09:15
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| Please refrain from bashing Hillary. Come Spring 2008, she may be all we have. |
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themisfit
Organizer
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Posted - August 11 2007 : 14:32:55
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What do ya mean WE,paleface?If she's all we have,I'm not likely to be part of the "WE"....
I'm with you,Arbee and doublea.
Any more to the Cargill thing,though?Sure would be nice to get rid of HIM.
Chris
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What would Harry Truman do?
What would William Jennings Bryan do? |
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gingerale
Organizer
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546 Posts |
Posted - August 11 2007 : 15:36:20
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| So misfit, I take it that if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, you will vote for Giuliani, Romney or some other Repug ... or just not vote at all? |
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Raymond Emerson
Activist
USA
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Posted - August 11 2007 : 18:41:02
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WE WILL NEVER KNOW whether Bill Clinton could have been a good president or not. Think about it. During the first year he attempted an omnibus campaign finance reform. A democratic congress shot it down. For the first two years he seemed able to get nothing through congress. For the next 6 years he faced a republican congress. When you make a pact with the devil, you had better figure that the devil will be accounted for in the pact. For every good thing Bill Clinton did you will find that somewhere the devil got his due. Did he save us from the worst excesses of a republican congress? He looks better when you compare him to a clearly republican congress and George Bush.
Could we expect Hillary to do better? Perhaps it really depends on what kind of congress the nation sends her. Send her a republican congress and if she beats Bill it will be miracle. Send her a democratic congress with Waxman and Conyers and a half dozen really populist leaning heads and you might get something really worthwhile. They all are going to owe too much to their campaign financiers.
George Bush is going to be remembered as the best president th United States ever had. Here's how it can happen. He can be remembered as the most honest and the most loyal president ever. He has done just exactly what the guys that financed his campaign asked him to do. He's been loyal to them. He's been honest with them. They will now see to it the endowed chairs in history in their private schools write history to report this. If I'm wrong I'll apologize. |
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Tim Reese
Administrator
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18164 Posts |
Posted - August 11 2007 : 19:37:11
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| This conversation is going way off topic. Please start a new string. |
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Carl Owen
Outspoken Leader
10566 Posts |
Posted - August 11 2007 : 19:49:11
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| Well I for one am glad to hear about this little tryst. If Cargill is busy screwing his secretary then he's too preoccupied to screw the rest of us. |
"Shut up," he explained. Ring Lardner
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
Always have a Plan B, the world operates on Plan B. Plan A is just a wish list.
Oklahomans love to claim "We're the Buckle of the Bible Belt". But if your pants are down around your ankles is this something we ought to be proud about? |
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drstones
Leader
3663 Posts |
Posted - August 11 2007 : 21:30:46
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I wanted to leave this thread alone, but that cartoon of Speaker Cargill s-o-o-o-o-o looks like "The Church Lady."
Or Sandra Day O'Connor . . . |
Keith
Now a sober voice of reason at the high end of the FM Dial ...
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
1855 Posts |
Posted - August 11 2007 : 21:59:47
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WELL CARL= ITS TOOO BAD 4 LANCE CARGILL= THAT HIS "TW" AINT TREBOR WORTHEN= CAUZE LANCE MITE NOT BE IN A PICKLE NOW. HERE TALE= TREBOR IS VARY DISCRETE.
MITCH
Trebor Worthen (file photo) |
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Mitch™
Leader
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1855 Posts |
Posted - August 11 2007 : 22:11:17
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quote:
Originally posted by drstones
I wanted to leave this thread alone, but that cartoon of Speaker Cargill s-o-o-o-o-o looks like "The Church Lady."
Or Sandra Day O'Connor . . .
WELL DOC= LANCE CARGILL IS A CHURCHY SORTA FELLER. GIT THIS= HIS DISTRICK ADDRESS IS ON CHURCH AVE IN HARRAH!! YER WELCOME TO BORRIE THE PIC= IF U WANNA PUT IT ON YER BLOG.
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Mitch™
Leader
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1855 Posts |
Posted - August 12 2007 : 11:22:26
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U SPOSE LANCE CARGILLS WIFE PLANS ON RUNNIN FER OFFICE?
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Chris Heldenbrand
Leader
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4508 Posts |
Posted - August 12 2007 : 12:41:31
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Originally posted by Mitch™
U SPOSE LANCE CARGILLS WIFE PLANS ON RUNNIN FER OFFICE?
MITCH
Um, maybe. His.  |
Chris Heldenbrand
Show up, stand up, speak up, sign up...
Democracy For America - Oklahoma City
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mholmes102
Grassroots
USA
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Posted - August 12 2007 : 14:54:43
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Are you SURE TW is his secretary? It would be too bad if it was assumed and she is not the person.
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drstones
Leader
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Posted - August 12 2007 : 15:18:31
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quote:
Originally posted by mholmes102
Are you SURE TW is his secretary? It would be too bad if it was assumed and she is not the person.
Martha Kendall Holmes
More than too bad.
Having named a TW, some particpants on this thread have opened themselves up to a potential defamation suit . . . |
Keith
Now a sober voice of reason at the high end of the FM Dial ...
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Earl Cofer
Outspoken Leader
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10286 Posts |
Posted - August 12 2007 : 18:01:18
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| Lots of luck with that lawsuit, I think the inter-net is considerd a news medium. If the Oklahoman can get away with it all these years, I think slander would be very hard to prove. |
If my feet would fit a railroad track, I guess I'd been a train. -Billy Joe Shaver |
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drstones
Leader
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Posted - August 12 2007 : 18:45:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Earl Cofer
Lots of luck with that lawsuit, I think the inter-net is considerd a news medium. If the Oklahoman can get away with it all these years, I think slander would be very hard to prove.
Not Cargill. TW. One is a public figure, the other is not. And if the allegation is not proved, a private person has been defamed.
A chat board does not enjoy anything resembling the protections of a journalist.
Posty posty posty, but watch out for liability. |
Keith
Now a sober voice of reason at the high end of the FM Dial ...
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Carl Owen
Outspoken Leader
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Posted - August 12 2007 : 20:00:18
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Shoot they have to prove it's a lie first. Think they really want to bring it to court?  |
"Shut up," he explained. Ring Lardner
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
Always have a Plan B, the world operates on Plan B. Plan A is just a wish list.
Oklahomans love to claim "We're the Buckle of the Bible Belt". But if your pants are down around your ankles is this something we ought to be proud about? |
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drstones
Leader
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Posted - August 12 2007 : 20:51:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl Owen
Shoot they have to prove it's a lie first. Think they really want to bring it to court?
Carl, now you are starting to think the way I think . . . recall, however, the standard of evidence is "preponderance." All they have to do is disprove the assertions of this thread to demonstrate that; then comes the matter of ascribing liability, beyond the webmasters and site owners.
Good luck with all that . . . |
Keith
Now a sober voice of reason at the high end of the FM Dial ...
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Teucer
Leader
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Posted - August 12 2007 : 21:28:36
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Read what was posted. It was never confirmed that Cargill's executive assistant was the TW sexually involved with the speaker. However some may find it interesting that she has these initials. Also interesting is the fact that she received concert tickets from the same lobbyist as Cargill. Do private persons receive gifts from political lobbyists?
In the civil process, discovery could prove interesting as well. |
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drstones
Leader
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Posted - August 12 2007 : 21:32:15
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Teucer, putting the pieces together and maintaining them with a wink and a nod does not absolve one of potential liability. The master of this site could bear some liability . . . the parts all fall together through efforts done here which might malign an innocent private person.
Be careful with innuendo, folks. Employees of public figures are not public figures.
Now I'll sit back, as usual, and take my completely objective and non-partisan pissing-on for ruining your party.
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Keith
Now a sober voice of reason at the high end of the FM Dial ...
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Carl Owen
Outspoken Leader
10566 Posts |
Posted - August 12 2007 : 21:42:07
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"Shut up," he explained. Ring Lardner
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
Always have a Plan B, the world operates on Plan B. Plan A is just a wish list.
Oklahomans love to claim "We're the Buckle of the Bible Belt". But if your pants are down around your ankles is this something we ought to be proud about? |
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Mitch™
Leader
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1855 Posts |
Posted - August 12 2007 : 21:50:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl Owen
Sue me. I think it'll make delicious front page news.
HECK= U THINK THEY MITE WIND UP PUBLISHING THAT MAN OF THE YEAR CARTOON IN THE TULSIE WORLED & THE DAILY OKLAHOMAN?? HOW BOUT THAT!!
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Teucer
Leader
1021 Posts |
Posted - August 12 2007 : 21:54:14
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Keith, you never answered my question: Do private persons receive gifts from political lobbyists?
from page 14 of 52 [PDF] SUMMARY OF LOBBYING EXPENDITURES
http://www.ok.gov/~ethics/Reportsa.06.pdf
(the "not given" was the name of Edward's business)
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clevelanddem
Activist
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Posted - August 13 2007 : 09:15:27
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What I would like to know is all this just rumor or is there some hard facts to back up all the things that have been posted?
If it is true why is it not beeing shouted from the roof tops? They need to be exsposed for what they (the republicans that is)really are.
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Earl Cofer
Outspoken Leader
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10286 Posts |
Posted - August 13 2007 : 09:46:38
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| Who do you think is going to expose Repugs? The Oklahoman? They are much too busy trying to put an old man in jail for something almost every pol has done at one time or another. |
If my feet would fit a railroad track, I guess I'd been a train. -Billy Joe Shaver |
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Mitch™
Leader
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1855 Posts |
Posted - August 13 2007 : 21:09:03
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quote:
Originally posted by Teucer
Keith, you never answered my question: Do private persons receive gifts from political lobbyists?
from page 14 of 52 [PDF] SUMMARY OF LOBBYING EXPENDITURES
http://www.ok.gov/~ethics/Reportsa.06.pdf
(the "not given" was the name of Edward's business)
STONES AINT GOT THE STONES TO ANSWER. NOW SUE ME.
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Mitch™
Leader
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1855 Posts |
Posted - August 14 2007 : 10:59:43
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WELL= U CAIN'T BLAME CARGILL FOR NOT FESSING UP BOUT THIS= THERES FOKES IN HIS REPUGLYCAN PARTY= THAT STILL WANNA MAKE BREASTFEEDING MOTHERS REGESTER AS SEX OFFENDERS.
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Teucer
Leader
1021 Posts |
Posted - August 14 2007 : 12:43:08
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Will he have to "FESS UP"?
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JoDavis
Leader
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Posted - August 14 2007 : 13:30:54
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Mitch's statement about breastfeeding sounds preposterous but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. I was shocked when I asked one of my young born again relatives (who uses Sooner Care and lives on the edge of poverty) if she planned on breast feeding. She turned 6 colors, made a distasteful face and "On No!"
Breast feeding is healthier for the baby and the mother, yet another scientific fact that the religious nuts have discarded. |
Jo Davis
REAL DEMOCRATS SUPPORT EQUAL CIVIL AND ECONOMIC RIGHTS FOR ALL |
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Mitch™
Leader
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1855 Posts |
Posted - August 14 2007 : 13:59:44
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WELL JO- REMEMBER FORMER STATE REP. BILL GRAVES (R-OKLAHOMA CITY)??
FLASHBACK TO 2004=
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"Breast-feeding terms faulted"
Breast-feeding advocates are upset about an amendment in a House bill
mandating that women nurse in a "discreet and modest way."
The women say the wording implies that breast-feeding is an immodest
and sexual act, and not a right to nourish their children.
House Bill 2102 exempts breastfeeeding mothers from obscenity laws.
It passed the House Monday after Rep. Bill Graves, R-Oklahoma City,
added an amendment requiring mothers to cover their breasts while
nursing.
"I think it is a bunch of feminists who want it where they can let it
all hang out," Graves said Tuesday. "I think we ought to do things
in a modest way. There's no problem covering it up with a blanket."
However, advocates say the wording could open the door to harrassment
and discourage women from nursing.
SOURCE
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JoDavis
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Posted - August 14 2007 : 19:57:27
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| Another example of the wingnuts preoccupation with sexuality. Sometimes it seems that's all they think about. I know some of them that won't let their wives go to a male doctor. |
Jo Davis
REAL DEMOCRATS SUPPORT EQUAL CIVIL AND ECONOMIC RIGHTS FOR ALL |
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Mitch™
Leader
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1855 Posts |
Posted - August 15 2007 : 10:48:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Teucer
from page 14 or 52 [PDF] SUMMARY OF LOBBYING EXPENDITURES
http://www.ok.gov/~ethics/Reportsa.06.pdf
It appears the David Stephen Edwards gave 2 concert tickets to Rep. Lance Cargill in January 2006 and 1 concert ticket to Ms. Tammie Wright on January 10, 2006. (the "not given" was the name of Edward's business)
Did anyone see them at the Bon Jovi Concert at the Ford Center in OKC on January 14, 2006? Did David Edwards also attend?
BON JOVI SANGS LUV SONGS!! WHOO'D A THOGHT A WANG-NUT LIKE CARGILL'D BE AT A CONCERT LIKE THAT. I FIGGERD HIM AS A HEAD-BANGER TYPE.
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mccurtaincountyyellowdog
Outspoken Leader
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15921 Posts |
Posted - August 15 2007 : 10:50:26
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| Mitch, he just had to see Jon perform "Blaze of Glory" in person. |
Jane Luttrell
“Society exists only as a mental concept; in the real world there are only individuals.” ~ Oscar Wilde
"You are who you pander to" ~~ Juliet Lapidos, Slate Magazine, discussing Bush and Palin
"And remember the corporation is, by nature, sociopathic because no human in it is ever responsible."~~somebody named MacKenna commenting on Matt Taibbi's portion of The Smirking Chimp
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Tim Reese
Administrator
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18164 Posts |
Posted - August 15 2007 : 14:36:19
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I'm waiting for the DNA test.
I heard Lance was nauseous a few days ago. |
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Carl Owen
Outspoken Leader
10566 Posts |
Posted - August 15 2007 : 15:26:09
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| Morning sickness will do that to you everytime. Trust me I know. |
"Shut up," he explained. Ring Lardner
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
Always have a Plan B, the world operates on Plan B. Plan A is just a wish list.
Oklahomans love to claim "We're the Buckle of the Bible Belt". But if your pants are down around your ankles is this something we ought to be proud about? |
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
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Posted - August 15 2007 : 22:49:31
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Originally posted by mccurtaincountyyellowdog
Mitch, he just had to see Jon perform "Blaze of Glory" in person.
WELL JANE=
A BLAZE OF GLORY AINT ALWEEZE WHAT ITS CRACKED UP 2 BEE.
WE LOOZE MORE HOLEY ROLLER LEGISLATERS THAT WAY.
MITCH
PS= STILLWATER TOWNIE= NOW LANCE LOOKS 'HOT' |
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Teucer
Leader
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Posted - August 16 2007 : 09:53:08
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| What's he doing, bumming a ride? |
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Gin
Leader
USA
2523 Posts |
Posted - August 16 2007 : 10:30:15
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quote:
Originally posted by gingerale
Please refrain from bashing Hillary. Come Spring 2008, she may be all we have.
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
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Posted - August 16 2007 : 11:01:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Teucer
What's he doing, bumming a ride?
NOPE- THATS A THUMS-UP= CAUZE EVERTHANGS JIST HUNKY-DORIE!!
MITCH
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Carl Owen
Outspoken Leader
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Posted - August 16 2007 : 17:38:23
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| My guess was that he just pulled it out of his ass. |
"Shut up," he explained. Ring Lardner
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
Always have a Plan B, the world operates on Plan B. Plan A is just a wish list.
Oklahomans love to claim "We're the Buckle of the Bible Belt". But if your pants are down around your ankles is this something we ought to be proud about? |
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
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Posted - August 16 2007 : 21:25:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl Owen
My guess was that he just pulled it out of his ass.
U FIGGER HE WUZ SEXUALLY HARRASSING HISSELF???
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Teucer
Leader
1021 Posts |
Posted - August 17 2007 : 11:30:06
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| Could inter-office sexual escapades create a liability problem where the state would be considered responsible, should one party decide the advances are unwanted? |
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Carl Owen
Outspoken Leader
10566 Posts |
Posted - August 17 2007 : 16:50:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Mitch™
quote:
Originally posted by Carl Owen
My guess was that he just pulled it out of his ass.
U FIGGER HE WUZ SEXUALLY HARRASSING HISSELF???
MITCH
Practice makes perfect is my motto.
My Dad always told me that a true gentleman always pulled the lady's dress back out after he gooses her. |
"Shut up," he explained. Ring Lardner
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain
Always have a Plan B, the world operates on Plan B. Plan A is just a wish list.
Oklahomans love to claim "We're the Buckle of the Bible Belt". But if your pants are down around your ankles is this something we ought to be proud about? |
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Teucer
Leader
1021 Posts |
Posted - August 19 2007 : 12:33:29
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Some people say you cannot trust Wikipedia.
quote:
Due to term limits placed on him by the Oklahoma Constitution, Cargill will be unable to seek reelection in 2012. A recent sex scandal may limit his term in office even sooner.
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
1855 Posts |
Posted - August 19 2007 : 20:08:42
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WELL TEUCER= LOOKS LIKE= WIKIPEDIA IS A SERVICE TO PUFF UP TOAD POLITICIANS LIKE CARGILL. NO CRITECIZM ALLOUD.
MITCH
PS= LEAST THEY GOT A GOOD PIC OF TREBOR WORTHEN |
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lakeleader
Leader
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Posted - August 20 2007 : 09:58:38
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A couple of thoughts:
1. This is important because Cargill has set himself up as a moral model, both to his voters and to the rest of us whose alleged morality he seeks to regulate. Clinton never claimed to be perfect.
2. I understand the evidence includes two witnesses partially, but unfortunately not completely, corroborated by security tape. But I have not seen it.
3. I don't know who TW is. If it is Cargill's aide, the question becomes whether she is civil service--and therefore perhaps not a public figure for libel purposes--or an exempt (political) employee--in which case she has probably waived her non-public status. However, even public figures can sue for libel--it is just much harder for them to win. Caution is appropriate, but not necessarily silence.
4. One way or another, this issue needs to become public. I am absolutely fed up with the free pass given these guys.
Personally, I'd send him a certified letter asking him point blank to execute an affidavit swearing that he never did anything remotely like what is being reported. Force him to return it by certified mail. Let him know that if he refuses, that will be publicly reported: "Cargill won't deny sleazy tryst in office." If he denies it, this provides the basis for felony mail fraud charges if it can be proved that he lied. If he admits it, of course, that makes it really easy.
In fact, why not do this to the entire GOP majority in the House, covering a laundry list of the "sins" they constantly rail and/or legislate against? It will take money, guts and a good lawyer.
Anybody game to go??
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John Wylie
Oologah, Oklahoma
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kathy
Leader
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - August 20 2007 : 10:08:16
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| So where it says Tammie Wright Position Not Given does that mean the maintenance staff didn't see if she was on her knees? |
"Like Atlas, we carry the immense burden of the country on our shoulders, waiting for the day seemingly long into the future when the American people say, that will do." ~Army of Dude |
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
1855 Posts |
Posted - August 20 2007 : 13:35:29
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quote:
Originally posted by mccurtaincountyyellowdog
Mitch, he just had to see Jon perform "Blaze of Glory" in person.
HE GIVES LOVE A BAD NAME. |
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Jeri
Leader
3578 Posts |
Posted - August 20 2007 : 15:50:19
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Graves gives humanity a bad name. He is one sick SOB!
As for Lance Cargill, I hope his good little "christian" wife, kicks him right where it hurts!!
Several times!
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Elda L. Davis
Organizer
USA
632 Posts |
Posted - August 20 2007 : 21:27:53
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| An assistant DA told me that Judge Graves is easy on sexual predators when sentencing!!! We need to work for anyone who opposes him next time!!!!! |
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Elda L. Davis
Organizer
USA
632 Posts |
Posted - August 20 2007 : 21:36:41
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| By the way, some well-meaning friend?? must have given my personal email to Lancie. I received a notice about his informationalblog. www.okspeaker.blogspot.com. How many of you want to have some real fun??? |
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Ken Reddick
Leader
3406 Posts |
Posted - August 20 2007 : 22:14:10
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| that's http://www.okspeaker.blogspot.com/ for any who may be interested |
Ken Reddick - Tulsa
"Say it…don’t mealy mouth around…say it….This war is wrong.
Find the exit. Stop the killing." - David Walters
"Democrat with a capital D, Christian with a capital C" - FDR
PEACETHINK - STOP THE WAR - BRING OUR TROOPS HOME!
Let's find out what the truth is.-Dennis Kucinich 7/25/2008 |
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
1855 Posts |
Posted - August 20 2007 : 22:27:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Elda L. Davis
An assistant DA told me that Judge Graves is easy on sexual predators when sentencing!!! We need to work for anyone who opposes him next time!!!!!
I CAIN'T BELEAVE THEY MADE BILL =COVER THEM BREASTS= GRAVES A DISTRICK JUDGE!!
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Chris Heldenbrand
Leader
USA
4508 Posts |
Posted - August 21 2007 : 00:47:26
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That election was between Graves and the most prosecutor-friendly (read: biased) judge in the courthouse. It was decidedly a race to choose the lesser of two evils, but I'm not convinced that's the way it turned out.
Besides, as a wise man once said (it could have been me): the lesser of two evils is still an evil. |
Chris Heldenbrand
Show up, stand up, speak up, sign up...
Democracy For America - Oklahoma City
http://www.dfalink.com/okc |
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
1855 Posts |
Posted - August 21 2007 : 10:04:20
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quote:
Originally posted by lakeleader
A couple of thoughts:
1. This is important because Cargill has set himself up as a moral model, both to his voters and to the rest of us whose alleged morality he seeks to regulate. Clinton never claimed to be perfect.
2. I understand the evidence includes two witnesses partially, but unfortunately not completely, corroborated by security tape. But I have not seen it.
3. I don't know who TW is. If it is Cargill's aide, the question becomes whether she is civil service--and therefore perhaps not a public figure for libel purposes--or an exempt (political) employee--in which case she has probably waived her non-public status. However, even public figures can sue for libel--it is just much harder for them to win. Caution is appropriate, but not necessarily silence.
4. One way or another, this issue needs to become public. I am absolutely fed up with the free pass given these guys.
Personally, I'd send him a certified letter asking him point blank to execute an affidavit swearing that he never did anything remotely like what is being reported. Force him to return it by certified mail. Let him know that if he refuses, that will be publicly reported: "Cargill won't deny sleazy tryst in office." If he denies it, this provides the basis for felony mail fraud charges if it can be proved that he lied. If he admits it, of course, that makes it really easy.
In fact, why not do this to the entire GOP majority in the House, covering a laundry list of the "sins" they constantly rail and/or legislate against? It will take money, guts and a good lawyer.
Anybody game to go??
JOHN- IF U DIDUNT ALREDDY HAVE THE NAME WYLIE= I'D SAY U EARND IT!!
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Ducktape
Grassroots
USA
25 Posts |
Posted - August 22 2007 : 06:05:03
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| I haven't noticed , how we donin' keeping this quiet? |
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Tim Reese
Administrator
USA
18164 Posts |
Posted - August 22 2007 : 06:31:35
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| Pretty good, but things may heat up a bit more before the end of the week. |
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Calvin Rees
Administrator
USA
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bartcopfan
Activist
329 Posts |
Posted - August 22 2007 : 17:41:53
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quote:
Originally posted by rokn
(Do as I say not as I do) should be the motto for the neo cons....... It seems they have different rules of behavior then the ones they expect all the rest to live by.
IOKIYAR!! |
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
1855 Posts |
Posted - August 23 2007 : 11:59:41
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quote:
Originally posted by kathy
So where it says Tammie Wright Position Not Given does that mean the maintenance staff didn't see if she was on her knees?
NOW-NOW KATHY= SHE MITE BEEN PRAYIN' OR EVEN TAKING DICKTATIONN. WE CAIN'T FERGIT HOW DEVOUT THEM REPUGLYCANS CAN BE!!
MITCH |
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kathy
Leader
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - August 24 2007 : 00:31:38
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I'm trying to forget THAT mental image, Mitch! 
Its enough to make me never want to be a housekeeper. (Although, I've never been much of a housekeeper...) |
"Like Atlas, we carry the immense burden of the country on our shoulders, waiting for the day seemingly long into the future when the American people say, that will do." ~Army of Dude |
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Tim Reese
Administrator
USA
18164 Posts |
Posted - August 25 2007 : 10:28:48
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This story just might get bigger this next week. There have been a few things that have surfaced that change the flavor so to speak.
I also hear a new playa may be stepping forward soon.
As always we will keep u advised |
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drstones
Leader
3663 Posts |
Posted - August 25 2007 : 12:11:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Tim Reese
This story just might get bigger this next week. There have been a few things that have surfaced that change the flavor so to speak.
I also hear a new playa may be stepping forward soon.
As always we will keep u advised
Ibid. There are many allegations flying around, but the problem, as always is . . .
CONFIRMATION!
Waiting for confirmation . . . |
Keith
Now a sober voice of reason at the high end of the FM Dial ...
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kathy
Leader
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - August 25 2007 : 18:15:51
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| Lance Cargill will be speaking to Muskogee Republicans on... I think Tuesday. Maybe it woud be fun to see what he says. |
"Like Atlas, we carry the immense burden of the country on our shoulders, waiting for the day seemingly long into the future when the American people say, that will do." ~Army of Dude |
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Catullus
Leader
2488 Posts |
Posted - August 28 2007 : 20:40:03
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| I don't have anything to add, but I just hate to see this one drop off the page. |
Ken Burton
A "leftie" and and proud of it!
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Teucer
Leader
1021 Posts |
Posted - August 31 2007 : 18:41:23
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| If Cargill had been caught in the toilet would the news media notice? |
Edited by - Teucer on August 31 2007 18:46:56 |
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
1855 Posts |
Posted - September 03 2007 : 00:41:54
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quote:
Originally posted by kathy
Lance Cargill will be speaking to Muskogee Republicans on... I think Tuesday. Maybe it woud be fun to see what he says.
WELL DID LANCE SHOW UP AT JASPERS?? DID THEY RUN ANYBODY OFF 4 ASKIN QUESTIONS??
MITCH |
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Calvin Rees
Administrator
USA
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Tim Reese
Administrator
USA
18164 Posts |
Posted - September 04 2007 : 12:58:47
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| Very soooooon.. |
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Wanda Jo
Leader
1355 Posts |
Posted - September 06 2007 : 16:32:06
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I went to a "100 Ideas" meeting yesterday. Looked like Cargill's pre-campaign for governor. Featured was a film about Cargill (wife, kids, Cargill's speech in House chamber) which reminded me of the
films at national Demo & Repub conventions about their nominee for president. |
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Tim Reese
Administrator
USA
18164 Posts |
Posted - September 06 2007 : 18:07:37
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Did he mention if he had a girlfriend on the 100 ideas payroll?
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Wanda Jo
Leader
1355 Posts |
Posted - September 06 2007 : 19:11:44
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quote:
Did he mention if he had a girlfriend on the 100 ideas payroll? Tim
Cargill wasn't even there. Thad Balkman was there only long enough to welcome us, then he introduced two women in charge of the meeting and left. |
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rokn
Activist
209 Posts |
Posted - September 06 2007 : 19:52:44
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| Cargill had a previous appt. in a closed office........ |
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Mitch™
Leader
USA
1855 Posts |
Posted - September 10 2007 : 16:35:08
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quote:
Originally posted by rokn
Cargill had a previous appt. in a closed office........
LETS HOPE THE JANITORS ALREDDY GONE HOME 4 THE NITE.
MITCH |
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Tim Reese
Administrator
USA
18164 Posts |
Posted - September 10 2007 : 20:48:50
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| I'll pay for photos. |
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