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CelticRaven
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 Posted - April 20 2008 : 00:55:25
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David Boren backs Obama candidacy
The former senator joins Sam Nunn on Obama's advisory team.
By JIM MYERS World Washington Bureau
Tulsa World
April 19, 2008
WASHINGTON -- University of Oklahoma President David Boren on Friday endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president, citing the Illinois senator's "good judgment" in warning against the Iraq war five years ago.
Boren's endorsement was part of a joint announcement with another former Democratic senator, Sam Nunn of Georgia.
Both men will serve as advisers to Obama's campaign on national security and foreign policy.
When in the Senate, Boren served as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Nunn led the Senate Armed Services Committee.
"I am joining Sen. Barack Obama's advisory team on foreign policy and national security because I believe it is my duty as a citizen to do all I can to help our country at this critical moment," Boren said.
"Our strength is declining. Eighty-one percent of Americans believe we are headed in the wrong direction. We must act quickly to meet and overcome the challenges we face."
Obama said he was honored to have the support and counsel of two of the nation's leading voices on national security.
"David Boren is one of our nation's foremost experts on intelligence, and he has been a powerful and passionate advocate for bipartisanship in Washington," Obama said.
In a separate statement to Oklahomans, Boren said he was exercising his rights and duties to his country as a private citizen.
"I am not acting on behalf of the University of Oklahoma," he said. "This will in no way impact my work at the university."
Earlier this year, Boren and Nunn co-hosted a meeting at OU with other prominent Americans to focus the 2008 campaign on restoring the nation's standing in the world and ending partisan bickering.
Boren's announcement automatically drew attention to his son, U.S. Rep. Dan Boren, D-Okla., who actually is a so-called superdelegate to their party's national convention this summer.
"My father exercises his own independent judgment on these matters, and this in no way means that I will endorse Obama," the congressman said.
"I remain uncommitted to either candidate."
Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., won Oklahoma's presidential primary this year.
© 2008, World Publishing Co.
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imobannon
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 02:48:37
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I'm a "rabid" Obamaist, but I still think it's odd that Boren and Nunn came out for Barack. Clinton seems a little more established (and establishment), plus a bit more conservative (not a whole lot, though). And both Nunn and Boren were quite conservative for Dems. Why the support for the O-Man?
Someone at a bar in Norman mentioned that shortly before Boren retired from the Senate, that Bill supposedly threatened "outing" Boren over a vote dispute. Even if this is so, it doesn't directly explain Sam Nunn.
In other words- these were not endorsements I expected, and it makes me curious as to the reason. |
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Calvin Rees
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Mecoyle
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 07:48:36
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Calvin Rees
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Mecoyle
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 07:54:34
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| OK...well then..what is it that I seem not to understand? Do you even know what you are talking about? Is that why you are unable to explain it to me? |
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Calvin Rees
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 07:59:22
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| I know what I am talking about and I am sorry that you have been exposed to the truth and still you do not understand. |
Calvin Rees
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TulsaTrialLawyer
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 10:57:36
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People like Boren and Nunn don't need a compass to tell them which way the wind shines.
Seasoned politicians do not jump on someone's bandwagon if they think the wheels are going to come off. They are sending signals and signs to those who care what they think (and that might be nobody for all I know). Maybe they are sending a signal to the supers that it is okay to back someone now instead of waiting for the end of the primary.
Anyway, probably not that big of a deal.
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Lori
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 11:40:23
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Marsha, drink the kool-aid and it will become clear to you.
Wonder if we are getting an Obama building wing at the University? |
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Calvin Rees
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 11:50:10
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TTL,
Remember they had a significant meeting at OU about fiding the right candidate? It looks like the leader of that movement has finally decided that he found it. Lori can insult us all she wants to tell us that we are wrong and never realize that she part of the problem with her personal attacks.
We have one calling Obama supporters "rabid" and now Lori has stooped to calling us cultish. Next you will find out that Hillary will attack great activists herself but that can never happened. |
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Earl Cofer
Outspoken Leader
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 13:34:05
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If my feet would fit a railroad track, I guess I'd been a train. -Billy Joe Shaver |
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Lori
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 13:55:17
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Calvin, I did not call you any name or attempt to insult you.
Marsha asked you a question twice which you did not answer. |
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Ownthinker
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 15:30:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Earl Cofer
When is this new rule suposed to kick in?
You're trackin', Earl!!!!  |
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Earl Cofer
Outspoken Leader
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 15:37:21
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| But I can't spell. Supposed has two "t's" I think. |
If my feet would fit a railroad track, I guess I'd been a train. -Billy Joe Shaver |
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ru8up2
Organizer
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 16:10:51
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| i'd guess that 90% or more of the stupid white men endorsing obama are doing it to be able to claim that they are not racist, kinda like the guilty dog barking, or he who smelt it dealt it |
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Aimee in OKC
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 16:34:20
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From Stephanie Singer, mathematician:
[BEGIN SNIP]
Obama plays Mozart to Clinton's Salieri
I encourage all Pennsylvania Democrats to vote for Barack Obama in next Tuesday's primary election. He has inspired thousands of the formerly uninvolved to get involved in presidential politics, and he has cross-over appeal to Republicans. His willingness to speak to the most difficult issues (e.g., his speech on race, available as video or as text) has earned him respect here and around the world. His ability to inspire respect, and to inspire, will help the United States repair relations around the world. And his well-run campaign is proof of his ability to be the chief executive of a sprawling, organic organization that draws from the grass roots.
I respect and admire Hillary Clinton. She would make a great president. And, yes, it is in some sense "her turn", which means "our turn" for all women who have taken it on the chin (and elsewhere) for following their passions into professions and institutions shaped mostly by men. Right now she reminds me of Salieri, in Schaeffer's Amadeus (a play, then a movie). Salieri was the court composer, a consummate professional at the top of his game. Then Mozart showed up, a kid who without paying his dues simply wrote music more beautiful than anything Salieri could produce. It was supremely unfair. But it doesn't mean one should choose Salieri's music over Mozart's.
So get out there and vote on Tuesday, April 22nd!
[END SNIP]
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_stephani_080415_obama_plays_mozart_t.htm
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Calvin Rees
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 17:19:56
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Originally posted by Lori
Calvin, I did not call you any name or attempt to insult you.
Marsha asked you a question twice which you did not answer.
I have answered her, all of us have answered and you still continue to insult us. It is right up your alley to do so. It is what you have always did. Those are personal attacks by calling it Koolaide drinking because what it infers. |
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Mecoyle
Organizer
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 18:53:58
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Originally posted by Calvin Rees
I know what I am talking about and I am sorry that you have been exposed to the truth and still you do not understand.
OK Calvin...I went back and re-read this entire thread and I do not see anything anywhere about any "truth" I was exposed to that supposedly enlightened me.
I am trying very hard to give you an opportunity to support your candidate by making POSITIVE comments about him without insulting those who oppose him.
So please enlighten me with your vast wealth of Obama knowledge and explain to me why you are so much in love with him that you can't see anything else. I want to know POSITIVE REASONS why YOU support Barack Obama for President...and please kindly omit your very nasty opinion of Hillary and her supporters.
Do you think you could try and do that? I'd really like to know your true opinion of Barack Obama and all that he stands for. And while you're at it, you can also mention his stand on the issues which is something else I think most people posting here would like to know (if they don't already).
John Edwards was my candidate and he got out. Now I'm "shopping" for a new candidate. So...convince me that Obama's the man. |
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imobannon
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 19:27:49
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Wow. When does this soap opera break for a commercial?
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"Education and an open mind are essentially vaccinations against republicanism." ~ Me
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ru8up2
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 21:24:37
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quote:
Originally posted by imobannon
Wow. When does this soap opera break for a commercial?
when c gets his wish, president mccain |
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soonersusan1954
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 22:25:55
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We all know what's gonna happen Tuesday....
Hillary will win PA around 55%-45% which will be just enough for her to take the stage 10:00pm CT and say "on to NC and Indiana" May 6th. And then from April 22nd to May 6th, to the continuing delight of the Republican's [who should be on their heels and/or knees right now], we'll continue tearing down our Nominee-to-be so that come August 26th whatever patching can be done (not much) we're probably off to another pathetic close loss.
So everyone, be you Hillary or Obama supporters take a deep breath for Round Whatever, and know we're just screwing ourselves. |
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Lori
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 22:47:41
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I have answered her, all of us have answered and you still cotinue to insult us. It is right up your alley to do so. It is what you have always did. Those are personal attacks by calling it Koolaide drinking because what it infers.
. Calvin, you are about the most immature ass I've ever met. And you think because you own this board that your dick has grown. Eat shit. |
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Lori
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Posted - April 20 2008 : 22:48:43
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| And learn some damn proper grammar while you're at it. |
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Calvin Rees
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Posted - April 21 2008 : 05:57:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Mecoyle
quote:
Originally posted by Calvin Rees
I know what I am talking about and I am sorry that you have been exposed to the truth and still you do not understand.
OK Calvin...I went back and re-read this entire thread and I do not see anything anywhere about any "truth" I was exposed to that supposedly enlightened me.
I am trying very hard to give you an opportunity to support your candidate by making POSITIVE comments about him without insulting those who oppose him.
So please enlighten me with your vast wealth of Obama knowledge and explain to me why you are so much in love with him that you can't see anything else. I want to know POSITIVE REASONS why YOU support Barack Obama for President...and please kindly omit your very nasty opinion of Hillary and her supporters.
Do you think you could try and do that? I'd really like to know your true opinion of Barack Obama and all that he stands for. And while you're at it, you can also mention his stand on the issues which is something else I think most people posting here would like to know (if they don't already).
John Edwards was my candidate and he got out. Now I'm "shopping" for a new candidate. So...convince me that Obama's the man.
We have posted positive statements on this Board many times Marsha, you have had the opportuity to have read them. If you didn't read them we posed our reasons and statements many times. And if you are shopping what about your Unions endorsement? Or does that matter?
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Mecoyle
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Posted - April 21 2008 : 08:47:26
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No, it really doesn't. I am not required to vote for the candidate my union endorses and I have a mind of my own - I don't let other people do my thinking for me. I have a feeling their choice of Barack Obama has something to do with the fact that the people making that decision were all men, with the exception of one woman who may or may not have been included in this decision. On top of that, our President (who would've had the biggest say in this) is a black man and most black men (and white men) support Barack Obama.
I have to assume after giving you this many opportunities to support your candidate in a POSITIVE manner that you either enjoy being negative too much, you really don't know why you support Barack Obama, you don't want me to support your candidate or you don't know the answer to my question. So, I'm gonna drop this for now, but I will say again I would appreciate it if you would keep your nasty opinion of Hillary and her supporters to yourself. You are one of the leaders of this board and as such, I expect you to set a GOOD example for the others who read your information and post here.
PS - What I will do is post my union's endorsement statement here for everyone to read because it does say many wonderful things about Obama. I am also going to post a positive thread about Hillary and I will do that without making ANY comments about the other candidate. See if you can do something like that too (even though I know you will find it challenging), OK? |
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Calvin Rees
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Posted - April 21 2008 : 09:02:30
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Originally posted by Mecoyle
No, it really doesn't. I am not required to vote for the candidate my union endorses and I have a mind of my own - I don't let other people do my thinking for me. I have a feeling their choice of Barack Obama has something to do with the fact that the people making that decision were all men, with the exception of one woman who may or may not have been included in this decision. On top of that, our President (who would've had the biggest say in this) is a black man and most black men (and white men) support Barack Obama.
I have to assume after giving you this many opportunities to support your candidate in a POSITIVE manner that you either enjoy being negative too much, you really don't know why you support Barack Obama, you don't want me to support your candidate or you don't know the answer to my question. So, I'm gonna drop this for now, but I will say again I would appreciate it if you would keep your nasty opinion of Hillary and her supporters to yourself. You are one of the leaders of this board and as such, I expect you to set a GOOD example for the others who read your information and post here.
PS - What I will do is post my union's endorsement statement here for everyone to read because it does say many wonderful things about Obama. I am also going to post a positive thread about Hillary and I will do that without making ANY comments about the other candidate. See if you can do something like that too (even though I know you will find it challenging), OK?
Marsha, I guess you don't understand that I have as many others have posted stories and information such as SoonerSusan that give the great reasons. But as an activist and delegate for the Oklahoma Democratic Party that you are I guess I made a mistake that you were capable of choosing yourself. I also would have thought that what I say as a white man after reading your statement would mean very little to you so why should I even try.
I guess you proably didn't read this endorsement as a positive article about Obama.
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Mecoyle
Organizer
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Posted - April 22 2008 : 12:50:18
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Calvin...after this election is over I hope you still love me.
I am perfectly capable of choosing for myself. Your insults and degrading comments do mean very little to me. However, if you would find a way to support your candidate without hurling insults at anybody who doesn't support your candidate, I would be VERY interested in what YOU (not sooner susan or others who post here) had to say. I do like to read the comments of others, but what I asked you about was your reasons for supporting Obama. I still don't know what they are and I guess I never will because you keep insulting me and you still have not answered the question I asked.
I have no comment one way or the other on the article about Obama. Every time I turn around I see another "let's all sing the praises of Obama" article on this board. At the same time, I have to say I rarely see ANY articles about Hillary and when I do see one it's usually full of negative comments which is something I believe we are all tired of.
When the elections are over, I will still love you and in the meantime (whether it's Hillary or Barack) I was looking forward to working with you and several other Demookies to get those Democrats elected. So, will you join me? |
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imobannon
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Posted - April 22 2008 : 22:44:15
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For god's sake- it is less of a man/women/white/black thing than all of us are making it out to be. How about a black woman- by stereotype, she would be torn between Hillary for being female and a Clinton, while also drawn towards Barack because he is black.
White women- expected to go toward Clinton? It depends upon age.
White men? I have moved twice between these two candidates- I am now fixed on Obama, but can/will vote for Clinton. I beleive in Barack dream, though.
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